The Fox Under The Hill

Like many of us, I have spent some time over the years in The Fox On The Hill towards the top end of Denmark Hill in the area known as the Triangle. Well it was not the original Pub.

That was the Fox Under The Hill, which was located at the corner of Denmark Hill and Champion Park.

Fox Under The Hill Resized postcard

Postcard published by Albert Flint & Co,Nr 686. Postmarked Aug 26 1905, Here is the view from today.

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Photograph taken by Nick Stevens, April 2015.

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Postcard view published by Stengel & Co, undated but certainly around the same year as the Flint postcard above, 1905.

And here looking down the Hill northwards.

Fox Under The Hill (looking north)

Published by Albert Flint, No 500. Postmarked April 7, 1905.

Fox Under The Hill

Postcard no publisher and undated.

And finally this painting

(c) Southwark Art Collection; Supplied by The Public Catalogue Foundation

Is titled The Fox Under The Hill and painted  by William Keddie Forrester and was painted in1925. It is part of the Southwark Art Collection

http://www.southwarkcollections.org.uk/code/eMuseum.asp?page=SArtC

William Keddie Forrester was a prolific painter with many works featuring scenes in Southwark.

The Fox Under The Hill dates from the 18th century.  At that time it was known as Little Denmark Halls most likely named after Denmark Hall built in 1768 by Luke Lightfoot at top of the Triangle at the junction of Denmark Hill and Champion Hill as a major new centre of entertainment for Londoners. It was not successful and while the tearooms remained for a while the raminder were converted into houses.

Another theory mentioned regarding the name is the obvious one, it’s connection with fox-hunting and The Old Surrey fox hounds were kennelled nearby for a time. Dog Kennel Hill springs to mind.

Here the Fox Under the Hill is mentioned in a map drawn by Middleton Bailey in 1808, taken from A Perambulation of the Parish of Lambeth, held  by Lambeth Landmark @ Minet Library.

Golden Lion pub on map dran by Middleton Bailey, From Perambulation of the Parish of Lambeth, 1808

It was also the starting point for the Dulwich Patrol,  a force set up to protect the area from criminals especially travellers heading up and along Denmark Hill and down into Dulwich. It was mostly funded by wealthy Dulwich residents.  There was another Watch house and a Cage further down Denmark Hill next to the Joiners Arms set up by the Camberwell Vestry with the aim of preventing as Olive Walker says in A Tour of Camberwell

… the erection of a new watch-house, rendered necessary by the almost daily annd nightly burglaries and robberies which occurred in the district. Directly opposite the Tavern and Cage were some cottages wherin lived footpads and other bad characters. Unprotected people, setting out over the hill towards Dulwich after leaving the coach, would be noted from sone vantage point, and a little later there would be another robbery, sometimes with violence.        

The Fox was advertised for sale in the following advertisment placed in the Morning Advertiser 1st February 1834.

Fox

The Fox Under The Hill was certainly known as that in 1839 when John Saunders was registered in Pigot’s Directory as Landlord.

Mentioned in an early Hone’s Year-Book according to The Survey of London, it being “the Sunday resort of many town-immured beings”. It also talks about the original Fox Under The Hill as a converted farmhouse of around 1680 to 1700 obviously having being rebuilt maybe once or twice. We know that it was rebuilt in 1874 as recorded by Blanch.

In 1861, Charles Dickens published Great Expectations and The Fox Under The Hill is said to be the setting for Wemmicks Wedding breakfast. Wemmick and the Aged did live in Walworth.

… and the tavern where Wemmick’s wedding-breakfast was held. This is said to be the Fox under the Hill, nearly at the top of Denmark Hill. It is now a modern public-house, but sixty or seventy years ago it was an old wayside inn—a pleasant little tavern, and a favourite resort, especially on Sunday evenings in the summer, for the youthful population of Walworth and Camberwell.

Extract from Dickensian Inns and Taverns by BW Matz.

However to be fair there was another Fox Under The Hill just off the Strand and others suggest this was a more favoured venue, as it was an area Dickens knew well.

However when Wemmick asked Pip to go for a walk , they headed towards Camberwell where Wemmick said “look here’s a church..  and then Dickens wrote after the wedding ceremony “Breakfast had been ordered at a pleasant little tavern, a mile or so away upon the rising ground beyond the green…

Case closed I think.

Added 07 July 2017

A photo postcard dated c 1910 showing the Fox Stables at 123 Denmark Hill. You can see alternate views of the stbales taken from further south in the earlier postcards above.

Fox Stables. 123 Denmark Hill, SE5 c1910

Added 26 November 2015

Here is a photo newly released, taken on behalf of Charrington Brewery during an architectural survey of their pubs and recently made available by the National  Brewery Heritage Trust. The photo is undated but is listed as between 1925-1955.

The Fox Under the Hill, 119 Denmark Hill  1925-1955 National Brewery Heritage Trust part of a Charrington Surveyors

The Fox Under the Hill was damaged in the WW11 blitz,   the bomb falling slightly further up the Hill just behind the Pub.  They temporarily moved into a nearby building and remained there for some time as Charringtons the Brewers approached the Dulwich Estate, looking for a new site. It continued on in business for some years until…

A lament on it’s passing

Fox under the Hill

Written by Conrad Frost on 17th January 1953 and published in his column in the Aberdeen Evening Express.

…finally in  1959 having reached an agreement the Fox On The Hill finally opened for business.

Source material:

The Survey of London,     Volume 26, Lambeth: Southern Area , edited by FHW Sheppard and published by London County Council, 1956.

Ye Parish of Camberwell, William Hartnett Blanch, Published by EW Allen 1875.

Dickensian Inns and Taverns by BW Matz, Published 1922 by Cecil Palmer

A Tour of Camberwell by Olive M Walker, Published by HH Graves Ltd, 1954

Southwark Council Art Collection

British Newspaper Archive, British Library

Lambeth Landmark , Lambeth Library in Minet Road

http://nationalbreweryheritagetrust.co.uk/

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